The 100mm stem on the gravel bike (pic) always seemed a tad long. It was okay... but not quite right.
Swapped it out for a 70mm (that'd be 1.18" shorter in Murican units), and it made all the difference. I no longer tend to scoot forward on the saddle or feel too stretched-out. Handling's much more, uh, snappy without becoming twitchy. Big improvement. Weirdly though, first time jumping on the bike with the new stem, it felt almost a full size smaller.
Rule of thumb for off-road bikes: In your normal / usual / preferred riding position (gravel bike: out on the brake hoods), the front hub should be more or less hidden by the handlebars.
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